Bodiam as 32670 pilots a train at Newmill Bridge in October 1985 picture copyright H.Nightingale
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The Third Terrier by Peter Cooper

First published in issue 50 of The Tenterden Terrier Winter 1989
Reproduced with permission of present editor Mr P D Shaw

Sir – I was interested to read your article on No.32678 (i.e. by Neil Rose) in issue 48, and wonder if I can add a few details.

According to the LB&SCR loco registers, No.78 on leaving New Cross in the early 1880s was briefly at Brighton and then stayed at Tunbridge Wells from approximately 1884-1891; then briefly to Littlehampton, and on to Brighton from about 1893-1899, going to Portsmouth (Fratton) around the turn of the century, and back to Brighton for a few years from about 1903. After that it was as quoted mostly at Horsham, but at Littlehampton from about 1915-1918. Incidentally, another register shows No.678 as running no mileage at all in 1911, just before conversion to A1X!

No.78 was transferred to the LB&SCR duplicate list in June 1905, and was subsequently renumbered 678, in June 1907. It is a mistake to suggest that transfer for the duplicate list, and renumbering in the 600 series, were part of the same process; they were separate processes. No.678 was in store at Preston Park from 1926-1929 having been recorded as withdrawn in 1925 – indeed the LB&SCR register (sic) even says “scrapped in 1925”! At the overhaul preceding transfer to the Isle of Wight in 1929, the loco received a Marsh chimney, replacing the Stroudley pattern and 14” cylinders, which I believe she still retains; thus No.32678 will be the K&ESR’s strongest Terrier. The present Drummond chimney was fitted on the Isle of Wight, at or about the same time as the loco was renumbered W14 – approximately October 1932.

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No.2678 was renumbered 32678 at Ashford in August 1948, but without repainting – look at photo 43 in “Branch Line to Tenterden”, for instance. At the overhaul following the Wittersham Road mishap in 1949, she was repainted in BR lined black, but with blank tank sides as BR crests were not yet available. They were presumably applied at the next “general” in 1953. Finally, Donald Bradley quotes a final mileage of 1411436 in his LB&SCR Part 1, but gives 1389447 in his Isle of Wight book – take your pick!

All in all, quite an interesting engine. I hope these few notes are of some help in putting together this loco’s history.

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Footnotes:-

The picture referred to is of 32678 off the rails following its 1949 derailment between Northiam and Wittersham Road. This was featured in a later edition of the magazine – issue 76, and will be reproduced in due course

Biography: “Branch Line to Tenterden” by Vic Mitchell and Keith Smith published by Middleton Press

I have never come across any other reference to 14” cylinders. Preliminary enquiries indicate that the bores in both “Bodiam” and “Knowle” are now 13” but further verification is needed

The chimney change adds credence to the possibility that a worn chimney, rotting side tanks, and wheel/axle problems were amongst the ailments that laid “Bodiam” low around 1930

Footnotes for this letter may be amended in due course

HN-13/03/2006

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